Has it though? [He works on opening up a packet of muffins next, taking a mouthful of one before he speaks again. What are manners?]

Smiley's said a whole bunch of things, and we're pinning a load of shit on it. But what if it's not to blame here? [Swallow, and let's just find that water.] The way I see it, Smiley may've wound us all up and tried to scare people. But the only thing we know for sure is that its helped treat a bunch of us from some disease Ward and Resnik never warned us about.

And the lists- [A shrug.] We've still go no fucking idea what that's all about.